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It was a beautiful, sunny day at Clemson University<\/a>. I was in my sophomore year and had just dropped off my tuition check at the registrar\u2019s office when I got a phone call from my mom, Leigh Bortins. We all have those moments in life that we remember so vividly. Typically, it\u2019s something really life changing. My mom said, \u201cRobert, your dad is thinking about getting you a car for college. He changed his mind, though, and quit his job. He is going to homeschool your younger brothers, and I am going to try to make Classical Conversations\u00ae\u00a0<\/sup> a real business. You\u2019ll have to pay for the rest of college, yourself.<\/strong>\u201d So, I went to the co-op office and asked what jobs they had available for the next semester.<\/p>\n

\"Robert<\/p>\n

Fortunately, because I was homeschooled,\u00a0I was able to work as an engineering intern\u00a0in\u00a0my last two years\u00a0of\u00a0high school and had an impressive resume. This allowed me to\u00a0get the highest paid co-op.\u00a0In college,\u00a0I would work\u00a0for\u00a0a semester and summer\u00a0and\u00a0then go to school\u00a0for\u00a0a semester.\u00a0In those years, I experienced all kinds of living arrangements.\u00a0I rented out a walk-in closet one year to sleep in.\u00a0I slept on the top bunk at a family\u2019s house\u00a0for another\u00a0year while their high schooler\u00a0slept on the bottom.\u00a0Eventually,\u00a0I did get a car\u00a0and, for one month,\u00a0either\u00a0lived out of\u00a0it\u00a0while\u00a0it was\u00a0still\u00a0nice weather\u00a0or\u00a0crashed\u00a0at\u00a0different\u00a0friends\u2019 places; either way, it\u00a0saved\u00a0me a month of rent.\u00a0Between student loans, saving money from my co-op job,\u00a0working while taking\u00a0eighteen\u00a0hours of\u00a0Engineering\u00a0credits,\u00a0switching state residencies to get\u00a0in-state tuition, and learning how to roll credit card debt from\u00a0one\u00a0card\u00a0to\u00a0another\u2014I was able to graduate in\u00a0three and a half\u00a0years of full-time schooling\u00a0over\u00a0a\u00a0five-and-a-half-year period<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Read:\u00a0<\/strong>“The Benefits of Homeschooling: A Graduate’s Perspective”<\/a><\/p>\n

I think, at least once a semester, my mom would call to see if she could borrow some money from me to buy inventory to sell at a local homeschool curriculum fair or state organization event. \u201cRobert, if I could borrow from you $1,000 this week, in one month, I will pay you back in full and give you interest on top of it,\u201d she would ask. Then I would say, \u201cMom, all of my friends call their parents for money; this is not how this is supposed to be.\u201d<\/p>\n

Mom, all of my friends call their parents for money; this is not how this is supposed to be.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2013 Robert Bortins<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Like most single-income families, my stay-at-home mom was always looking for a side business to help with the family\u2019s finances. My dad, also named Robert Bortins, was a well-respected aerospace engineer, but my mom loved business. Over the years, while my brothers and I were growing up, my mom had tried different multi-level marketing (MLM) opportunities and started several small businesses she could run out of our home to make an income. She was giving us an education on entrepreneurship<\/strong>, without even meaning to.<\/p>\n

I think my mom is a natural teacher.<\/strong> She always sees\u00a0the best in people and wants\u00a0them to see beyond their fallen nature,\u00a0so they can be who God made them to be.\u00a0So\u00a0when she told the local homeschoolers she was starting a community for high school students called\u00a0Classical Conversations,\u00a0there was a lot of interest, and\u00a0we had\u00a0ten\u00a0students join us that fall.\u00a0That year,\u00a0she was writing\u00a0the program as she went,\u00a0but\u00a0her work then\u00a0became\u00a0the framework\u00a0now\u00a0for our Challenge\u00a0I<\/a> program. It was important to her to charge a fee in the early days because it required families to buy in and show up, and thus created accountability. This was something she saw that was missing in the co-ops we were a part of in the past. That first year went well, so we decided to do it again for a second year. Some more families wanted to join, and my mom for the first time gave her curriculum to a friend who was willing to run her own Classical Conversations community. They were a single-income family like ours, so my mom made a deal that her friend would give her a percentage of any tuition she collected and keep the rest. This way, if her friend did not get any students, she would not have to pay. This was a lot different\u00a0than\u00a0the MLM we had been a part of\u00a0in my\u00a0growing up<\/strong>, where we would shell out a lot of money up front. My mom did not<\/strong> want to place that burden and financial risk on other families.<\/p>\n

By the time I had exited high school, there were four or five communities going, and people were driving a few hours to attend. There was a small waiting list, but I didn\u2019t give it much thought back then. I was going to be heading off to college to study industrial engineering. People often ask, \u201cDid Robert Bortins always want to be part of Classical Conversations\u2019 leadership?\u201d I have to say, I enjoyed being homeschooled under the Classical Conversations model, but the organized business it is today did not exist back then for me to even consider joining. One of my friends who was studying business did a paper on my mom.<\/strong> At that time, there were about 2,000 students in a CC program. CC was not bringing in an income for my parents in those years, but the Lord was good and allowed them to pay their bills from the savings my dad had dutifully put away for the first nineteen years of their marriage. One year, my mom won a business award that gave her a $10,000 grant, and that\u00a0become\u00a0a lifesaver\u00a0for\u00a0ordering\u00a0the inventory she needed.<\/p>\n

After\u00a0I graduated\u00a0college,\u00a0I\u00a0got a job at UPS and worked\u00a0there\u00a0for nearly a year as a management trainee,\u00a0before moving on to be a plant engineer for a small recycling company.\u00a0Meanwhile,\u00a0my mom had other amazing moms join her, such as Heather Shirley, Mary\u00a0Alphs,\u00a0and others,\u00a0to\u00a0help\u00a0homeschooling families know\u00a0about the benefits of\u00a0education in\u00a0community.\u00a0Classical Conversations began to grow from one state to many states.\u00a0In that same span of time, I\u00a0was gaining valuable life and work experience.\u00a0My mom and I started talking about me coming on to help, but she could not match my salary, and I was a young man with bills to pay.<\/p>\n

Listen:<\/strong> Episode 33: A Practical Approach to Classical Thought with Heather Shirley | Refining Rhetoric<\/a><\/p>\n

I did start helping with Homeschool Testing Services<\/a>\u00a0so that parents could get the end-of-grade testing they needed for their children.\u00a0I enjoyed being homeschooled, and now Classical Conversations was becoming a\u00a0structured business.\u00a0While\u00a0making widgets run\u00a0a little more efficiently\u00a0is\u00a0fun,\u00a0it\u00a0isn\u2019t life-changing work, and I felt I could add value at CC.<\/p>\n

My two youngest brothers had grown up with my mom traveling 18-30 weeks a year,\u00a0telling people about becoming a\u00a0Director<\/a> and starting a Classical Conversations community in their area. She wanted to spend time with her younger sons before they went off to college. Classical Conversations had reached about 38,000 seats and was finally providing a regular paycheck to my parents (most months). I quit my job to join CC full-time in 2012 and promptly enrolled in the Irmo, South Carolina Foundations<\/a> and Essentials<\/a> classes, so I could learn about those programs. That poor Director and tutor… I think they were very nervous, at first, but they quickly realized that I was just a normal 26-year-old in this class of 11- and 12-year-old boys and girls. I did not become a Memory Master, but I did write all of my Essentials papers! (Boy, I wish I had the new guide<\/a>\u00a0back then!)<\/p>\n

Listen:\u00a0<\/strong>Episode 1: From Sleeping in Closets to CEO | My Journey with Classical Conversations | Refining Rhetoric<\/a><\/p>\n

I moved to the home office in West End, North Carolina in 2013 and spent the year learning from my mom the ins and outs of the day-to-day tasks that needed to be completed at Classical Conversations. We had about thirty people on staff at that point, and we had a small office and warehouse space. My purpose was to free her up from a lot of tasks to allow her to concentrate more at home with my brothers\u2019 education. Since that time,I have been leading the\u00a0day-to-day\u00a0operations\u00a0at Classical Conversations,\u00a0as we have expanded from\u00a0serving families in all forty states to serving families in all fifty states and over fifty countries. Our staff has expanded to nearly 150 full-time employees, most who homeschool with Classical Conversations. In fact, about 70% of our employees are homeschooling parents, some current and some empty nesters. We are expecting to add another ten positions this year to support the surge in homeschooling.<\/p>\n

Today, I have three children. The eldest is in our local CC community. Neither my wife, April, nor I have been able to absorb through osmosis all that my mom has learned. My wife did take Latin in college, so I guess she has some advantages there, but I was a typical boy, growing up, and did my schoolwork so that I could go play. Now, I read the books we recommend and study them. Perhaps in twenty years, I\u2019ll know what my mom knows\u2014but probably not. We\u2019re in community, taking each week as it comes, and trying to raise our children in the love of the Lord. We know it is invaluable to have a like-minded community around us, helping us educate our children to know God and to make Him known<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Not yet a Classical Conversations member and interested in our community-based approach to homeschooling? We’d love to hear from you! To learn more about us, click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

This post was written by Robert Bortins and originally published in April 2021<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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